Category: National Way Healthcare, fka Health One & Leads_to_Health

Wednesday, December 28, 2005

Health One - National Way:  After over 5 months still no answers to discovery requests

My e-mail to Health One attorney Ken Moyer with Wachtel, Biehn & Malm:

Dear Mr. Moyer:

I only received the 8/5/05 and 8/8/05 Health One responses to my requests for admissions and production, posted at CreditCourt.

The predominant response in the requests for production is “will supplement.”

You can’t accuse me of being a pestering impatient person, those promises were made on 8/8/05, over 4 months ago.

Could you please be so kind and let me know when you think you’ll provide me with those promised supplements?

Did the Health One responses to my 6/24/05 interrogatories get lost in the mail?

They were served in the same mailing as my requests for admissions and production and therefore must have been received by you.  Do I have to file a motion to compel?

Very truly yours,

Christine Baker

c: posted at junkfaxsuit.info

It’s beyond belief what these criminals get away with.  Of course any AZ lawyer with half a brain wouldn’t have a problem putting them in their place and racking up a $50K legal bill real fast.

It sucks to be pro se.

Saturday, November 26, 2005

Reader mail:  I googled “nationalway healthcare”

Hello Christine,

I googled “nationalway healthcare” and your posting was one of the results.

I have been considering some of these discount plans and I wanted to hear the other side.

Are they all fraudulent?  Can you recommend any?  What are the alternatives?  What are the advantages and disadvantages.

I would appreciate your views on this

Of course it’s nice to see that people search the web and find my sites before falling for the scams.  But I don’t understand that anyone would even CONSIDER doing business with that scum after reading here.

They’re ALL scum.  They fax and spam because they do NOT have a good product!  Whether it’s the travel crap, the stock touts, the health plans or the mortgage offers:

THEY ARE ALL CROOKS!!!! 

Without exception.  I have NEVER ran into an honest junk faxer.

My open letter to Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, Arizona Director of Insurance Christina Urias:

Stop the Exploitation of the Uninsured through Useless Discount Plans

If you want health insurance, check Blue Cross (the rates are online) and with an insurance agent.

Monday, November 07, 2005

The Health One Reply and Motion to Strike

This is absolutely amazing! 

Apparently EVERYTHING I hear someone say is “hearsay.”

I don’t get it.  I thought the entire purpose of an affidavit is to certify under oath what it is I heard the defendants say to me, etc.

I can’t testify about the calls by Health One to my AZ phone because it’s hearsay?

Public records are hearsay?

BBB reports are hearsay?

I have not received ANY response to my 6/24/05 interrogatories and they did not supply me with single document in response to my requests for production.

All filings, my initial disclosures and the Health One discovery responses are posted at
CreditCourt

These thugs ought to be in JAIL.

Then again, they only do the “American” thing, maximizing their profits by ripping off the disadvantaged.  The real problem is the corruption of the regulators who do nothing to stop this fraud.  My Open Letter to Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard and Arizona Director of Insurance Christina Urias got no meaningful response.

Stop the Exploitation of the Uninsured through Useless Discount Plans

Crooks and scammers everywhere I look. 

“Heil Dollar!”

Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Health One - National Way Healthcare update

The judge recently ordered that Health One has to reply by 11/1/05 after previously dismissing for my failure to timely respond to their motion to dismiss.

I had used the date the Health One CEO Wes Long signature was notarized on his affidavit, which happened to be 4 days AFTER the certification of mailing.

The scan of the notarization

This is all pretty strange.  I asked that National Way be added as defendant.  I wouldn’t mind suing them all in TX since I could use the TX AG complaint against other health plan scammers to model my UDAP claims after.

We’ll see what happens in November.

Sunday, August 14, 2005

National Way Healthcare radio ad claims the $135 program reduces a $1,800 bill to $100

I would IMMEDIATELY sign up if there was a chance that it is true. 

However, in my dealings with National Way, fka Health One, I learned that they’re nothing but a bunch of liars.

I posted the ad with these ridiculous representations

Thursday, August 11, 2005

Discovery: Health One denies sending the faxes - Mike McVay has IQ below 40?

The Health One Response to my Request for Admissions

This is very interesting.  Mike McVay, Health One - now National Way Healthcare, denies that they sent or caused to have sent the faxes, but admits having approved me.

The tooth fairy sent me the fax application which they subsequently approved?

Mr. McVay denies that Health One did business in Arizona in 2004, admits they approved me, and does not know whether the approved application contained my Arizona address.

How dimwitted can he be?  The application is part of my initial disclosures, all posted at CreditCourt.  These criminals don’t stop at anything, they’ll have “I’m an IDIOT” tattooed on their forehead if they think it might get them a dismissal.

And, I still don’t have an answer or any response to the complaint.  And I don’t have the responses to the interrogatories and requests for production.

Friday, July 29, 2005

L_2_H aka Leads_2_Health aka L2H Inc. Kingston, Jamaica

A reader sent me a couple links regarding L2H, posted at Fight Back: L_2_H aka Leads_2_Health aka L2H Inc. Kingston, Jamaica, and aka Health Match, a division of L_2_H A B.V.I. LTD

Health Match?  Never heard that before.  Why do I think that it may not be true that they are a BVI or in Jamaica?  Well, it could be true, but I guess it makes no difference.  No matter who they are, nobody is going to stop the faxes or make them pay up.

If anyone actually gets to them, they’ll just change their name.

Monday, July 18, 2005

The liars at Association Healthcare Management

At Texas AG sued Mike & Kristopher Rabie, Family Health and Family Care/NAPP aka Association Health ... Steven posted today:

“The suit against them has been resolved here in Texas. I have been monitoring the suits filed against these Discount Card companies, especially here in Texas where I reside. These companies however are doing legitimate work around the country. Due to the bad apples in the industry, honest companies such as Family Health and Family Care, who deliver on their promises, are being prosecuted. If I was in charge of an “Alternative to Insurance” company, despite probably doing no wrong, I would watch my back.”

Of course I suspected that this was someone associated with those con artists, but I thought I’d ask for some documentation about the suit being “resolved.” Interestingly, the e-mail with my comment notification bounced:

... User unknown

So I checked his IP:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=64.219.68.66+

Location: United States [City: Houston, Texas]

NOTE: More information appears to be available at NET-64-219-68-64-1.

SBC Internet Services - Southwest SBIS-3BL (NET-64-216-0-0-1)
64.216.0.0 - 64.219.255.255
Association Healthcare Management, Inc SBC06421906806426050202143446 (NET-64-219-68-64-1)
64.219.68.64 - 64.219.68.127

This lying BASTARD (and as stupid as it gets) might well be one of the Rabies.

Now you’ve got absolute proof that they’re CROOKS.

FYI, I’m 99% sure that these are the same scumbags that I’m suing, they’re all related.

Monday, July 11, 2005

National Way Healthcare Association radio ads - is this the finale?

I thought I wasn’t hearing right.  I dialed the 800-613-9304 and after many rings, someone claiming to be the answering service informed me that all the sales reps are busy taking calls.  Hmmmmm .... is this the final sales push?

From Attorney General Abbott Sues Two Fraudulent Houston Health Discount Card Companies

“Consumers in Texas who wish to file complaints against the companies can contact the Office of the Attorney General at 1-800-252-8011. Out-of-state consumers can call 512-463-2100 or file complaints online at http://www.oag.state.tx.us”

National Way Healthcare Association (fka Nationwide Benefits - Health One) called to solicit

This is pretty strange.  I still haven’t received the long promised motion to dismiss from their attorney Kenneth Moyer.  Sure was surprised to get their message today.

They gave me the new website http://www.select129.com/ - another private registration.  Since there is no useful info on their site, I called again and finally talked to supervisor Nathan.

It was a very long call.  It’s now $199/month and open enrollment ends this week.  Does that mean they’re finally going out of business?

Nathan finally gave me the # for National Way Healthcare Association to get more information:

Mike McVay 832-615-1012

So I did a Google search for 832-615-1012 To my surprise, the only links are to my own sites.  And there’s ALL KINDS of good stuff!  This was before I had the fax blog.

According to a comment, Health One = USA Family Medcare = 10333 Harwin in Houston and Mike McVay is the CFO.  I can’t understand why the TX AG hasn’t named ALL of them in his suit, must be time to try to get in touch with his people, this is confusing the hell out of me.

Excerpt from my old blog posting - a comment with the 4/19/04 BBB info:

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Thursday, June 30, 2005

Nationwide Benefits name change to National Way Health Care Association

According to the TX Secretary of State at 512-463-5555, Nationwide Benefits Association recently changed the name to National Way Health Care Association

More info on names and registered agents

My 6/24/05 Health One Initial Disclosures and Discovery Requests

I had Health One, Inc. served around 4/5/05 and a few weeks ago Kenneth Moyer, the attorney for Keith Hyatt, contacted me to let me know that he represents Health One.  He informed me that he was going to file a motion to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction, that’s how junk faxer and lead generator Hyatt and his company Infasource got off (until I file in California.)

Moyer hoped that the faxes were sent to my WA #.  As I went through the file, I noticed that Health One had APPROVED me for my application with my ARIZONA address.  That should take care of personal jurisdiction.

So I sent my initial disclosures and my discovery requests last week.  It’s easier the 2nd time, but since my questions are NOT canned, it does take a lot of time to try to make sure it all makes sense.

I went all out and included a CD with a couple of VMs and a long call with Paul at Health One.  He had the nerve to tell me that I had to sacrifice $189 for the nonrefundable application and first month’s premium to find out what exactly the benefits are and he continually referred to “INSURANCE.”

The plan I applied for is NOT insurance.

I got very upset as I went through the phone calls and my file with the “approved” application - it’s such a fraud!

So I included AZ consumer fraud and USC Title 18 Frauds and Swindles and Wire Fraud claims. 

In case you’re new here, I don’t have a CLUE what I’m doing.  I figure I’ll amend my complaint if they respond to my discovery requests.  I don’t know how to MAKE them respond to my complaint, whether I should file for a default judgment and what the deadline for that is.

Of course I can always refile against them if they get dismissed for some technicality such as failing to file a timely request for a default judgment.

I still want to scan and post my exhibits with my Initial Disclosures, maybe next week.  In the meantime, my initial disclosures and discovery requests are at CreditCourt and the faxes, research and other info is at the Health One Forum at Fight Back!!!

I see lots of complaints about the ongoing junk faxes, although I haven’t received any more faxes.

It would be very helpful if you could post any junk faxes you received after they have been served on 4/5/05 at Fight Back!!! or send the faxes to me at 571-222-1000.  I’d like to document that they are WILLFULLY junk faxing.

I also wouldn’t be surprised at all if they went out of business, they’re already delinquent on their taxes and AGs across the country are investigating these scammers.

Hopefully I’ll soon find the time to send my complaint to the AZ AG for investigation.

Wednesday, March 16, 2005

California is investigating Health One, Nationwide Benefits and all other discount plans

Got an e-mail today from the California Department of Managed Health Care, Office of Enforcement, requesting the address for Health One and info on any existing Cease & Desist orders.

They plan to issue C & Ds until they get licensed, so the state can impose requirements and they have to operate legally.  Apparently there have been a lot of complaints and this about ALL discount health plans.

If you want a refund

You need to go through the BBB where the company is headquartered.  That will help with class actions and regulatory enforcement.

To stop the scams

File your complaints with YOUR state’s Department of Insurance and Attorney General.
In California, contact the Department of Managed Health Care.

The health scams are now in the top three search phrases for my sites.

It really sucks that each state has to do their own investigations and enforcement - what a waste of resources.  This is another one of those issues the feds should just take care of for all.

Tuesday, March 01, 2005

NY AG is going to investigate Nationwide Benefits - Health One

I just got a reader mail from a reader who had filed a complaint with the NY State Dept. of Insurance and he was advised that they would refer the case to the AG for prosecution.  Thank you!  That’s what it takes to get things moving.

Apparently they need to be licensed with the Insurance Dept. regardless of whether they sell insurance or PPO discounts.

I hope that everybody who ordered the Health Plan and is not happy with it files a complaint with THEIR state.  Your mileage will vary, NY is one of the better states as far as enforcement goes.

I had written to the IL Insurance Dept. about the cease & desist hearing, but didn’t get a response.

A TX attorney is planning on a class action for the junk faxes - I’ll post as I find out more.

Wednesday, February 23, 2005

Health *discount* cards are NOT insurance - IL cease & desist

A reader alerted me to the Illinois cease & desist hearing

HealthOne, Inc.
USA Family Care
American Med Care
American Med One
Nationwide Benefits Association
Wes Long, CEO
Steven Whately, President
Family Care
Mike Rabie, President of National Assn. of Preferred Providers
National Association of PreferredProviders

Hearing No. 04--HR--0296
Cease and desist 10/26/04

Note that in the article below Mike Rabie states that they were adding 2,000 to 3,000 new members a MONTH - and that was in 2002.

The LA Times:

Discount Card Isn’t Insurance

“September 16 2002

When Sandra Ray-Baucom discovered a lump in the testicle of her 2-year-old son, Jeramy, doctors recommended immediate surgery. The lump was caused by a fast-growing hernia and could rupture, they said, causing serious internal damage, even death.

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