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Operation FAKE leads

Tuesday, July 12, 2005

CJ.com (Commission Junction) doesn’t appreciate “Operation FAKE Leads”

They closed my account.  How will I live?

Our correspondence is posted at Fight Back:

Operation FAKE Leads: submit those mortgage applications, LowerMyBills.com (now Experian) pays $32 to $40 per lead

They didn’t respond to my questions about the SPAMMERS. 

That’s because they LOVE spammers - CJ profits off the clicks/applications/sales due to their affilates’ SPAM.

Sunday, July 10, 2005

Operation FAKE Leads - CJ.com terminates my account - NOT the Spammers’

I posted my correspondence with “Network Quality” at Operation FAKE Leads: submit those mortgage applications, LowerMyBills.com (now Experian) pays $32 to $40 per lead

Isn’t it interesting that they searched for my posting and then terminated MY account, but they’re not concerned at all with spammers?

Their ONLY interest is to make as much money as possible and since they make MORE money when affiliates SPAM, spamming is ok at Commission Junction.  This is another business Experian ought to acquire.

Thursday, May 05, 2005

While I’m brain storming on “payback”—how about SPAMMING to reach MILLIONS

I hate nothing more than the spam that starts with telling me about great software to purchase to STOP spam.

BUT—in an effort to reach MANY people and especially the people who use computers, why not start sending out SPAM with how to click on Google links to cost the CRAs a lot of money and to submit those fake mortgage leads if you really want to do something.

I’ve been getting literally hundreds of spams advertising the e-mail lists with millions of addresses, but I don’t know which ones are for real.

I even posted about the spam for a server in China for $600

I get that several times a day.

Wonder if my spam would even be illegal, since I’m not selling anything it’s not a commercial e-mail.

Any thoughts anyone?

It sure is strange to want to spam.

Action alert: hitting LowerMyBills.com and Experian where it HURTS

I’ve been so busy, haven’t even gotten to posting the LMB filings yet.  I had sued them because one of their affiliates spammed the blog here twice and LMB did NOTHING after I notified them TWICE.

On Monday was the court hearing, according to the judge LMB has no liability for their spamming affiliates.

I also documented that LMB purchased leads from an e-mail spammer in February and they could not care less.

The court already ruled that Ameriquest can knowingly purchase leads from spammers, so there’s no point to even try suing over that.

All the LMB ads on the web fail to comply with just about every advertising reg on the book, but the Cal. DRE refused to investigate my complaint.

Talk about corruption ....

So, it’s time to hit them where it hurts and lose the ethics and moral inhibitions

We’ve already talked about the clicking on Google ads and other pay per click ads for the free credit reports, credit counseling, debt negotion etc. and the Ameriquest ads, it costs them around $10 for each click for mortgage quotes and I’ve been doing that quite frequently.

But it’s not enough and LMB pays per LEAD.

For weeks I’ve been wondering about WHAT I could do and I finally came to the conclusion that the only way to fight them is by wasting their money and by dilluting the leads.

So, this afternoon I saw another one of those obnoxious LMB ads and I signed up for mortgage quotes.

Of course I didn’t use MY info, I used the California DRE address and tel #, I’m looking for a $600K refi and I wish I could see the look on the faces of those mortgage agents when they call on the lead and the DRE answers the phone.

Hopefully they’ll get 50 busy signals before they get through ...

So, LMB paid $36 to $40 to the news site where I saw the ad and then 4 lenders paid about $20 each (or more, not sure) to make a call to the Cal. DRE. 

LMB/Experian still makes money, but if a few other people do that, the lenders might start complaining and not buy those leads anymore - that’s the best case scenario.

I hope that since LMB’s ads make false claims, it’s not a problem that I in turn provide false info too.

If a million people did this, they’d be out of business!

I know, there won’t be a million people submitting fake leads, it is quite a bit of work to fill in all the fields and make it look real.  But, every time I get angry and can spare a few minutes, I will do just that.

There are numerous DRE offices, the AZ Banking Dept, the Governors’ offices, the AG’s offices, etc.—lots of numbers to use, wouldn’t want LMB to be able to screen out the fake leads by the phone number.

And yes, I realize they can screen by IP, but that would eliminate all of Kingman and the surrounding area.  Or they’d have to manually check the leads from my area.

I’m so sick of the lies and deceipt and the fact that I have NO legal recourse against these lying scumbags, it’s time to play by THEIR rules.

Right now, the only enhancement I can think of is to be able to get those COMMISSIONS for the fake leads. Don’t know how one can publicize “friendly” site owners without LMB and Google shutting them off.